Yep from the same guys that swear they get 25 mpg in their 4WD diesel pick-ups on 38's chipped with 700 hp/1000 lbs of torque while towing their 40 foot boat on a steel trailer uphill both ways, full of fuel, camping gear, 400 cases of beer, 8 people in it and 500 feet of heavy duty chain aboard for their 800 lb anchor.........:icon_bs: