Cheer Up Conservatives

you really should do some research on this, or do you just prefer to believe the lies you have been fed?



If that's your idea of a deep bench, you need a new bench. :rofl:

First, it was a cut a paste I thought was funny that's why the jester at the end.
But as far as researching, my definition of a great human being isn't based on politics.

Mccain served and defended our country just like Rev Wright and in my book makes them both great human beings. I really don't agree with either ones politics, but that another story.
 
More Palin nonsense...

While we're on the subject...

Andrew Sullivan has been a leading voice for months (actually since she first came into the national spotlight) for Palin to release birth records of her last pregnancy. It is a rather bizarre story and there are a lot of unanswered questions and, although I don't care quite as much as he does, it would be nice to have the issue resolved.

Here is an entry from his blog this morning:

As Dish readers know, there are only three public photographs that I could find of Sarah Palin pregnant with Trig (the McCain campaign insisted there were "loads" and then was forced to retract). But we now have another. The date of this photograph, which turned up on a Flickr account, has been clearly established as March 26, 2008:

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That's barely three weeks before she gave birth to Trig, a full-term, 6 pound baby. It's also around a week before video footage of Palin, captured here. Since Palin refused throughout the campaign to provide any medical records (although, in classic Palin style, says she has), we only have three photographs of her pregnant and one doctor's letter, released hours before the polls opened November 3. If you're interested in why any sane person would ever doubt a mother's announcement of her own pregnancy, read this.

Maybe this photo has been photo-shopped. Maybe Palin had an anomalous pregnancy that showed far, far less than her previous ones, one that went from close to nothing to a serious bump in two weeks. Maybe the angle in the photo is misleading, and leaning toward us her pregnancy is concealed. Maybe her fifth labor really did take 26 hours combined via a speaking engagement (as amniotic fluid was leaking) and an 11 hour airplane flight (when a birth could have begun at any moment at extreme risk to the child), and maybe the bizarre and, to my mind, incredible stories she has told about the pregnancy and labor are true (there is still a chance they are). But if all these things are true, the Palin camp has had months to provide what would be instantly available records to dismiss all and every "insane" blog speculation about this. And yet none came - on or off the record.

I begged the McCain campaign by private email and in a private meeting to give me something - anything - to kill the story off. I promised to run any evidence that would blow this out of the water. That offer still stands. Please make me look like an idiot for asking these questions. But they didn't offer a thing, asserting that even asking the question was an outrageous reputation-destroying offense. Maybe Michelle Malkin is right that this is truther, tin-foil hat territory. But Malkin's only substantive point rebutting the photographic evidence is:

We’re all obstetricians now!

Actually, the Dish went out and interviewed eight of the leading obstetricians in the country and laid out all the facts of the case and asked the experts for their take. While none would say that this pregnancy could not have happened, and none would comment on a case they hadn't examined personally, all of them said it was one of the strangest and unlikeliest series of events they had ever heard of and found Palin's decision to forgo medical help for more than a day after her water broke and risk the life of her unborn child on a log airplane trip to be reckless beyond measure.

Malkin also equates the story with the Obama birth certificate affair. But we have documentary evidence of the certificate, and Palin has produced no hard evidence at all for her pregnancy. All that's needed is some medical records of her pregnancy which, as a Down Syndrome pregnancy, would have a large pile of medical documentation easily released. There is no formal record of Trig's birth at Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, although there is a record of two other babies born on the same day.

Maybe I am crazy to even wonder. Or maybe we have witnessed one of the biggest frauds in American political history and the biggest failures among the American media in a very, very long time.
 
95% of Barack Hussein Obama voters know that Palin has a daughter with an illegitmate baby on the way. Only 34% know which party controls the laughably miserable Congress. You and Mr. Sullivan are in great company there Jaybird. And BTW, no one has actually seen the birth Certificate, just a Certificate of live birth that can be issued to a child regardless of where they were born.

And here is something for you and Mr. Sullivan to ponder, would it be worse to have Sara's supposed baby popping out of her daughter, (or son or Husband for all I care) or to have the President-Elect of the United States of America constitutionally incapable of holding the office?


Frauud on the American people and failure of the American media indeed.....:rolleyes:
 
more palin nonsense?

Or an unfortunate return of Jay's obsession with the ramblings of Andrew Sullivan.

Too bad. It was almost ok reading Jay's posts when he came over here being all non-controversial. Being a boat lover, being a good photog.
Now, he is back on the whole Palin thing.

For God's sake Jay... let it go.
Obama won. Hurray.

Can you let it go? Or are you actually freaking nuts?
 
95% of Barack Hussein Obama voters know that Palin has a daughter with an illegitmate baby on the way. Only 34% know which party controls the laughably miserable Congress. You and Mr. Sullivan are in great company there Jaybird. And BTW, no one has actually seen the birth Certificate, just a Certificate of live birth that can be issued to a child regardless of where they were born.

And here is something for you and Mr. Sullivan to ponder, would it be worse to have Sara's supposed baby popping out of her daughter, (or son or Husband for all I care) or to have the President-Elect of the United States of America constitutionally incapable of holding the office?


Frauud on the American people and failure of the American media indeed.....:rolleyes:

Never mind the fact that Obama is less qualified than half of our forum. If he at least had been a Mayor, or a Governor. Anything other than a no show senator and member of the Chicago syndicate.
 
Never mind the fact that Obama is less qualified than half of our forum. If he at least had been a Mayor, or a Governor. Anything other than a no show senator and member of the Chicago syndicate.

Yeah, but he's a clean looking black guy!!! tm Joe Biden 2006


And he makes Chris Matthew's leg tingle!!!


Sounds completely qualified to me. I amazed myself actually being relieved when he started naming all the warmed over Clinton people (well, Hillary maybe not so warm), but his cabinet could have looked like that Troutly picture with his homies :leaving::seeya:
 
Cheer Up Conservatives
While the election results admittedly make it difficult, I am generally an optimist, and I'm not changing my stripes now. So here's what I feel good about right now:

· The next time someone ˆ perhaps looking up from their Sunday New York Timesˆ tries to tell you we live in a pervasively racist society, you can tell them to just shut the hell up.

· Since their services are no longer required, we can send Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson off to their long-overdue retirements, perhaps to Charlie Rangel's place in the Dominican Republic.

· While we're at it, can we all decide that if blacks can rise to the presidency, it follows that we no longer need affirmative action? Time to put it in the ground.

· The constructionists on the Supreme Court should be able to hold out another four years before they retire. We wish them the best of health.

· We won't have to spend four years defending John McCain. Let's face it, he was a great human being and a patriot, but a crummy candidate who wilted on most issues important to conservatives. It would have been four painful years followed by a lay-up election for∑Obama or Hillary.

· With the economy in the tank, Obama may have somewhat limited flexibility. His plans to turn us into Finland may have to wait.

· Jimmy Carter was a painful experience, but he gave us (cue heavenly choir music) Ronald Reagan. Will Obama give us a Bobby Jindal? Tim Pawlenty? Rudy? Sara?We have a deep bench. Start thinking ahead now.

· Since the Democrats control both houses and the White House, there will be no one else to blame when they screw up, which is as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow. While they will try to pin any problems on George Bush for at least the next millennia, the people will know better.

· The media has now officially been "outed" as in the tank for the Democrat Party. Even liberals know it. MSM credibility has never been so low.

· The New York Times was just demoted to junk bond status by the ratings agencies.

Finally, let's be happy that it's finally just over. This has been the longest election season ever and I ˆ a political junkie ˆ have never been so worn out with politics. So, cheer up. It's not all bad.:biggrinjester:

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Or an unfortunate return of Jay's obsession with the ramblings of Andrew Sullivan.

Too bad. It was almost ok reading Jay's posts when he came over here being all non-controversial. Being a boat lover, being a good photog.
Now, he is back on the whole Palin thing.

For God's sake Jay... let it go.
Obama won. Hurray.

Can you let it go? Or are you actually freaking nuts?

I'm ok as long as I don't disagree with you, is that it?

What fun would that be, since you are so wrong, so often.

But to answer your questions, yes I can let it go, and yes, I am freaking nuts.

(sorry for the hijack, BB)
 
I'm ok as long as I don't disagree with you, is that it?
since you are so wrong, so often.
One to whom belongs the inherent tendency to illustrate the wrongs of another, sans one’s own irreproachable confutation, is oft apace to fallacy oneself.
 
Andrew Sullivan has been a leading voice for months

I am somewhat surprised you quote Sullivan. As an Oxford educated gay Libertarion Brit, who supported Bush in 2000, Kerry in 2004, and Obama in 2008, his credibility is suspect at the very best. His biggest gripe is that the Republican party is no longer conservative enough so he supports Democrats and makes headlines by giving very non-substantiated rumors headlines in his blog. Huh???:huh:
 
One to whom belongs the inherent tendency to illustrate the wrongs of another, sans one’s own irreproachable confutation, is oft apace to fallacy oneself.

Do you want to put that on a poster?:) What photo would you use?
 
One to whom belongs the inherent tendency to illustrate the wrongs of another, sans one’s own irreproachable confutation, is oft apace to fallacy oneself.

inherent: built-into the constitution or essential character of something
tendency: a proneness to a particular kind of thought or action
illustrate: to give an example or instance
sans: without
irreproachable: blameless
confutation: something (as an argument or statement) that confutes
oft: often
apace: at a quick pace : swiftly
fallacy: deceptive appearance : deception

In other words...Jay is full of sh*t.
 
I am somewhat surprised you quote Sullivan. As an Oxford educated gay Libertarion Brit, who supported Bush in 2000, Kerry in 2004, and Obama in 2008, his credibility is suspect at the very best. His biggest gripe is that the Republican party is no longer conservative enough so he supports Democrats and makes headlines by giving very non-substantiated rumors headlines in his blog. Huh???:huh:

Well, at least he admits when he's wrong... he was a huge Bush cheerleader and has done a complete 180. I like the guy's insight on current events, even though he's a bit too religious for me in general.

I dislike Palin even more than he does, and I have enjoyed his non-stop coverage of her lies. The whole baby thing is way overblown, just like the Obama birth certificate... it's political theatre- after the election. She could kill the speculation in two minutes by releasing the med records. It's no secret why she won't- she loves the attention, any attention.
 
it's political theatre- after the election. She could kill the speculation in two minutes by releasing the med records. It's no secret why she won't- she loves the attention, any attention.

Show me a politician who doesn't and I'll show you someone unemployed:biggrinjester:
 
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