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It will be interesting to see how Obama focuses on the primary issues we face. If nothing else, he's proven to be a very good manager, and adept at refocusing efforts and manpower as things change rapidly around him. This was a huge weakness of GW, not to mention his preference for no argument style of leadership.
Whether Obama does well in his first term or not is not really open for debate yet, he's not in the office yet. I hope he does well for all of our sakes. But the real irony here lies in statements like the above. After eight years of Dubya, and our current economic apocalypse, you'd think people would pen more articles about what's going on and why. As President Elect, Obama has already shown me more than Dubya has in eight years. I don't love the guy, and completely disregard his party, his color, all of that. I just take things for what they are.
For people to be in a position to judge anyone, let alone someone not even in the Oval Office yet, they need to reflect on one of the most mismanaged presidencies in history. I don't need to talk about Carter or Obama, or Clinton. Dubya is so offensive to real conservatives that they prefer to throw barbs at Obama just to avoid the subject. I've said it many times, I believe Obama will run his presidency much the way he ran the campaign. He listens, he's very pragmatic, and he's not a knee jerk ideologue.
The mere fact that after eight years of Dubya has elicited more criticism of Obama than ever does not speak well for the Republican Party's maturity level. Discussion about Palin is pretty absurd given her performance on many subjects. But this will go on, and if Obama has many successes his first year, the ranting will get even louder. But aside from political banter, I care not what the loudmouths say about Obama, or anyone for that matter. I prefer to keep my eye on the ball and look at what's really going on. I will judge him by his actions and his policies, not from bickering and articles that dredge up names from the past, while remaining completely ignorant of history. Dubya's history has been mostly written, I'd prefer not to relive it again, and neither would the likes of Kristol or Billingsly.
Whether Obama does well in his first term or not is not really open for debate yet, he's not in the office yet. I hope he does well for all of our sakes. But the real irony here lies in statements like the above. After eight years of Dubya, and our current economic apocalypse, you'd think people would pen more articles about what's going on and why. As President Elect, Obama has already shown me more than Dubya has in eight years. I don't love the guy, and completely disregard his party, his color, all of that. I just take things for what they are.
For people to be in a position to judge anyone, let alone someone not even in the Oval Office yet, they need to reflect on one of the most mismanaged presidencies in history. I don't need to talk about Carter or Obama, or Clinton. Dubya is so offensive to real conservatives that they prefer to throw barbs at Obama just to avoid the subject. I've said it many times, I believe Obama will run his presidency much the way he ran the campaign. He listens, he's very pragmatic, and he's not a knee jerk ideologue.
The mere fact that after eight years of Dubya has elicited more criticism of Obama than ever does not speak well for the Republican Party's maturity level. Discussion about Palin is pretty absurd given her performance on many subjects. But this will go on, and if Obama has many successes his first year, the ranting will get even louder. But aside from political banter, I care not what the loudmouths say about Obama, or anyone for that matter. I prefer to keep my eye on the ball and look at what's really going on. I will judge him by his actions and his policies, not from bickering and articles that dredge up names from the past, while remaining completely ignorant of history. Dubya's history has been mostly written, I'd prefer not to relive it again, and neither would the likes of Kristol or Billingsly.
I would agree with a lot of what you say Steve, oddly enough I have always believed that a good leader will piss off both sides equally and sort of stay above the fray. Clinton did this some, Bush tried but took on too much and made decisions based on political capital he just didn't have (he also made decisions based on what he thought was right, and not politically expedient but the line blurs somewhere in there). Now we have O coming in and talking CHANGE, but as soon as he gets the prize he brings in the Old Guard. I will say though, that when I see articles like this:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16292.html
I do have some hope for the guy and if what you say is true, maybe the ranting will be from the left and the right, which leaves most normal people in the middle and fairly happy. The biggest hurdle he has to conquer is making as much of the center as happy as possible, that is where his success or failure rides.
jayboat
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Posts and essays like this make me happy in a number of ways. Mainly because as long as dead-enders continue to listen to this tripe they ensure the complete irrelevance of their party. It's as if you haven't learned a single thing from the last 20 years, and with the wreckage and reality of results staring you square in the face, you still will not admit the truth. Kristol has singlehandedly done more damage to the conservative cause (ok- Broder, Halperin and one or two others share the blame) than any one person in history. It amazes me that anyone still listens to the fool, much less pays him money to open his mouth. He has been wrong on everything, and yet, the sheep still follow.
I closely followed his policies since last year, and paid particular attention to the impedus behind any changes in policy. The tax policy was altered some time ago, and many initiatives were taken off center focus by summer. As Obama was rapidly adjusting to a crappy economy, I cringed when McCain made the "Fundamentally Strong" statement.
I feel Obama's biggest hurdle will be to remain upfront and vocal, two qualities that I think got him elected this year. If he can admit mistakes, and rapidly change to reflect reality, he'll be miles ahead of what we now have. Maybe I'm wrong, but I never bought into the crazy liberal Obama thing, nor do I think he will lighten up on security. One thing that was not talked about at all really, by bloggers or the MSM, nor his enemies, was that Obama had the most sweeping reform for rebuilding the military and equipment I've seen. Not just dollars and talk, but extremely detailed to do lists to deal with the carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan. The military needs people and they need to replace worn out and/or destroyed equipment. They also need to replenish the equipment our National Guard has missed for some time.
You're definitely right about the middle, which in reality lops off the traditional and ultra liberals on the left, and many of the knuckle draggers on the right. All in all the so-called center probably has expanded to mean 65% of the country. If Obama continues to listen to all sides, and can lead effectively by producing actual change and sound policies, not just one-liners talking about them, we'll be ok. The two groups that will continue to be upset if he succeeds are the ultra liberals and the extreme right wingers. The minority of people that claimed to support Bush are trashing his replacement as the economy goes into the dumpster. For them, no good deed will ever go unpunished. It's going to be a long year. Here's to the rest of us.
I feel Obama's biggest hurdle will be to remain upfront and vocal, two qualities that I think got him elected this year. If he can admit mistakes, and rapidly change to reflect reality, he'll be miles ahead of what we now have. Maybe I'm wrong, but I never bought into the crazy liberal Obama thing, nor do I think he will lighten up on security. One thing that was not talked about at all really, by bloggers or the MSM, nor his enemies, was that Obama had the most sweeping reform for rebuilding the military and equipment I've seen. Not just dollars and talk, but extremely detailed to do lists to deal with the carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan. The military needs people and they need to replace worn out and/or destroyed equipment. They also need to replenish the equipment our National Guard has missed for some time.
You're definitely right about the middle, which in reality lops off the traditional and ultra liberals on the left, and many of the knuckle draggers on the right. All in all the so-called center probably has expanded to mean 65% of the country. If Obama continues to listen to all sides, and can lead effectively by producing actual change and sound policies, not just one-liners talking about them, we'll be ok. The two groups that will continue to be upset if he succeeds are the ultra liberals and the extreme right wingers. The minority of people that claimed to support Bush are trashing his replacement as the economy goes into the dumpster. For them, no good deed will ever go unpunished. It's going to be a long year. Here's to the rest of us.
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rbhudelson
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I guess I'm not loyal enough to the party that i primarily vote for because I hope the guy does a great job. i don't want to see what this place looks like in 4 years if he doesn't.
Pretty much spot on. Makes you wonder about those that claimed Support The President was a patriotic act. I know they really didn't mean it. Perhaps we can all look and see how the good Governor in Alaska handles the current oil crisis, which will indeed be a crisis for her state. Something tells me that Drill Baby Drill will fall on deaf ears, by those with the smarts enough to actually know how to handle capital.
From the pipeline that would cost taxpayers there $500 million to subsidize Transcanada, to the massive capital costs to the oil companies, that infamous pipeline may never be built. I think once the tax revenues tank there, Alaskans will have more to worry about than what glasses to buy. Life goes on with our without idiots in charge. I'd prefer it if the idiots weren't in charge, it hasn't gone all that well.
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